On March 29, 2019, Suzi Weissman and I sat down for an in-depth interview around the theme of “Labor, Socialism, and the Struggle for Power,” at a meeting sponsored by the Los Angeles chapter of Democratic Socialists of America. The interview was taped for Suzi’s long-running “Beneath the Surface” show on KPFK 90.7 FM Pacifica Radio in Los Angeles.

The discussion at the event itself went on for close to two hours, addressing key issues about how and under what conditions labor can win, the relation between mass action and political action, the relation between labor and the Left, and much more. The first half-hour is available as part of the Beneath the Surface podcast. You can listen to the audio below.